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LTC vs MIDI Timecode
Which timecode should I send to lighting and video? Below is every field we hold on both, side by side. Each one is sourced on the individual entry, and anything nobody could source is left blank rather than guessed.
Side by side
| LTC | MIDI Timecode | |
|---|---|---|
| Category | timecode-sync | timecode-sync |
| Flow | Clock and sync — tiny, ruthlessly regular | Clock and sync — tiny, ruthlessly regular |
| Transport | other | midi-din, usb |
| Multicast | no | no |
| Spec availability | open-published | open-published |
| Steward | SMPTE (Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers) | The MIDI Association (MIDI Manufacturers Association) |
| Status | current | current |
| Our confidence | verified | reported |
Both are clock and sync flows. Jitter, an unaware switch delaying the timestamps it was meant to correct, and two devices both convinced they are the master. That applies equally to either, so it is not a discriminator here.
Speaks both (20)
These are the safe choices if you have not committed to either, or need to bridge the two.
- Ardour Ardour Community
- Avolites Titan Avolites
- ChamSys MagicQ ChamSys
- disguise Designer disguise
- Eos Electronic Theatre Controls (ETC)
- Hippotizer Green Hippo (an ACT Entertainment brand)
- Millumin Anomes (Philippe Chaurand)
- Mitti Imimot
- ONYX Obsidian Control Systems
- Pro Tools Avid
- REAPER Cockos Incorporated
- Brainstorm DXD-8 Distripalyzer Brainstorm Electronics
- ChamSys MagicQ MQ80 ChamSys
- DiGiCo Quantum 338 DiGiCo
- disguise gx 3 disguise
- Eos Apex 5 ETC
- ETC Ion Xe 20 ETC
- MA Lighting grandMA3 light MA Lighting
- Hog 4 High End Systems
- Rosendahl nanosyncs HD Rosendahl Studiotechnik
LTC only (40)
- ArKaos MediaMaster ArKaos
- Depence Syncronorm GmbH
- Finale 3D Finale 3D
- HeavyM HeavyM
- Medialon Control System Medialon (Barco)
- Modul8 GarageCUBE
- PIXERA AV Stumpfl
- ProPresenter Renewed Vision
- Q-SYS Designer QSC, LLC
- Show Cue System (SCS) Show Cue Systems
- Smode Smode Tech
- Stage Precision Stage Precision
- Unreal Engine Epic Games
- WATCHOUT Dataton
- 7thSense Delta Media Server 7thSense
- Alcorn McBride A/V Binloop HD Alcorn McBride
- Alcorn McBride V16Pro Alcorn McBride
- Allen & Heath dLive S7000 Allen & Heath
- Analog Way Picturall Mark II Analog Way
- Avid VENUE S6L-32D Avid
- Avolites Ai Q3 Avolites
- Avolites Arena Avolites
- Avolites Diamond 9 Avolites
- Avolites Tiger Touch III Avolites
- ChamSys MagicQ MQ500M Stadium ChamSys
- Christie Pandoras Box Christie
- Dataton WATCHPAX 60 Dataton
- disguise vx 4 disguise
- ETC Eos Apex 10 ETC
- Evertz 5601MSC Master Sync and Clock Evertz
- grandMA2 full-size MA Lighting
- Green Hippo Hippotizer Karst+ MK2 Green Hippo
- Medialon Showmaster Pro Medialon (Barco)
- Midas HD96-24 Midas
- Modulo Kinetic Modulo Pi
- Obsidian Control Systems NX4 Obsidian Control Systems
- AV Stumpfl PIXERA one AV Stumpfl
- TAIT Navigator TAIT
- Yamaha RIVAGE PM7 Yamaha
- Zero 88 FLX S48 Zero 88
MIDI Timecode only (8)
- Ableton Live Ableton AG
- dot2 onPC MA Lighting
- Isadora TroikaTronix (Mark Coniglio)
- MIDI Monitor Snoize
- MIDI-OX
- QLab Figure 53
- TimecodeDisplay Figure53
- Hippotizer Boreal+ MK2 Green Hippo
What goes wrong with LTC
The 80-bit word carries no frame-rate field. The reader infers the rate from the incoming bit rate, so a 25 fps generator into a 30 fps reader produces numbers that look plausible and quietly drift.
Drop-frame at 29.97 skips frame numbers, not time. Cue sheets written non-drop against a drop-frame master run out by roughly 3.6 seconds an hour, and the error is invisible in the first five minutes of a tech.
ST 12-1 asks for 1 to 2 V peak-to-peak with 40 microsecond rise and fall times. Route LTC through a compressor, a de-esser, a lossy codec or a consumer wireless link and the edges round off until the reader loses lock.
LTC is unreadable at very low transport speeds because there are no transitions to clock from. A paused master stops sending position entirely, so downstream devices either freewheel or drop out.
It is an audio signal, so it bleeds. Keep it off adjacent channels, out of foldback and out of anything that goes to a speaker; a burst of LTC in the PA during a quiet scene is a career moment.
The eight four-bit user groups are free-form and every manufacturer fills them differently. Do not assume date or reel data survives a round trip through a converter or a distribution amp.
What goes wrong with MIDI Timecode
Quarter-frame messages carry one nibble at a time, four per frame, so a complete timecode value takes two frames to arrive. Every MTC reader is inherently one to two frames behind. Compensate in the receiver, do not nudge the master.
The frame rate lives in bits 5-6 of the hours byte and encodes only 24, 25, 30 drop-frame and 30. There is no 23.976, 48, 50 or 60 value, so a 23.98 project has to travel as 24 and be reconciled at the far end.
The full-frame sysex F0 7F cc 01 01 hr mn sc fr F7 only locates the receiver. Nothing actually runs until quarter-frames start arriving, which is why a device can display the correct time and still not be chasing.
A receiver that ignores the frame-rate bits will run 25 fps code as 30 and drift by a fifth. The numbers look sane the whole time, which is what makes it expensive to spot.
Quarter-frames are continuous traffic on a 31.25 kbit/s DIN line. Share that cable with MSC and your cue messages queue behind the clock.
Only the low nibble of each user-bit data byte is used in the user-bits sysex. Converters that repack user bits between LTC and MTC routinely lose or reorder them.
Sources
- SMPTE ST 12-1:2014 — Time and Control Code — SMPTE primary
- Setting the Standards Free — SMPTE opens its full standards library at no cost — SMPTE primary
- libltc — Linear/Longitudinal Time Code library — Robin Gareus
- MIDI Time Code — RP-004-008 v4.2.1 specification — The MIDI Association primary
- MIDI Time Code (quarter-frame nibble order, full message, frame-rate bits, user bits) — Koninklijk Conservatorium Den Haag (course copy)
Disagree with any of this?
Every claim above comes from one of the two entries and carries a source. If one is wrong, correcting it is a single file and it fixes this page automatically. Edit LTC or edit MIDI Timecode.